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From: Jax FL
2014 FLHTK - water cooled, decat, pipes, AC, normal stuff....and a PV2.
question #1
On the PV2, on my wife's 2013 Slim, it had data in the far left hand columns.
here is the tune from today, the 2014 does not populate the left two columns...is that normal?
here is the PV2 screen on "compare" with "highlight" on the Delta tab:
here is a shaky screen shot:
question #2,
what is the best/alternate sources for canned maps?
the one's from dynojet were extremely lean on the softail (what is their elevation?)
question #3,
idling 900 RPM, is it good/bad/indifferent (note 929 in the screen shot)
should IETMS work @ 900 RPM?
the map from dynojet for the TK did NOT like to idle, and did not like to start when cold.
and the IETMS made it seem like it wanted to die. (IDK, may have been 900)
I downloaded the S&S map, and it idles great, IETMS works fine (still @ 1000rpm)
found this after some searching:
question #1
On the PV2, on my wife's 2013 Slim, it had data in the far left hand columns.
here is the tune from today, the 2014 does not populate the left two columns...is that normal?
here is the PV2 screen on "compare" with "highlight" on the Delta tab:
here is a shaky screen shot:
question #2,
what is the best/alternate sources for canned maps?
the one's from dynojet were extremely lean on the softail (what is their elevation?)
question #3,
idling 900 RPM, is it good/bad/indifferent (note 929 in the screen shot)
should IETMS work @ 900 RPM?
the map from dynojet for the TK did NOT like to idle, and did not like to start when cold.
and the IETMS made it seem like it wanted to die. (IDK, may have been 900)
I downloaded the S&S map, and it idles great, IETMS works fine (still @ 1000rpm)
found this after some searching:
900 is too low. 975 is just about right on most I've messed with. It will never sound like a Shovel so don't try to make it sound anything different than a TC sounds like. Do what's right for the engine, 900 isn't that. You have both oil pressure and voltage for the FI system to consider. Both of which will be affected by a low RPM at idle.
Last edited by 04ctd; Sep 10, 2014 at 05:17 PM.
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2014 FLHTK - water cooled, decat, pipes, AC, normal stuff....and a PV2.
question #1
On the PV2, on my wife's 2013 Slim, it had data in the far left hand columns.
here is the tune from today, the 2014 does not populate the left two columns...is that normal?
Don't know, you may be one of the first to try PV2 on a 2014 wet head.
here is the PV2 screen on "compare" with "highlight" on the Delta tab:
here is a shaky screen shot:
question #2,
what is the best/alternate sources for canned maps?
the one's from dynojet were extremely lean on the softail (what is their elevation?)
question #3,
idling 900 RPM, is it good/bad/indifferent (note 929 in the screen shot)
should IETMS work @ 900 RPM?
the map from dynojet for the TK did NOT like to idle, and did not like to start when cold.
and the IETMS made it seem like it wanted to die. (IDK, may have been 900)
I downloaded the S&S map, and it idles great, IETMS works fine (still @ 1000rpm)
How about building off of this map?
found this after some searching:
question #1
On the PV2, on my wife's 2013 Slim, it had data in the far left hand columns.
here is the tune from today, the 2014 does not populate the left two columns...is that normal?
Don't know, you may be one of the first to try PV2 on a 2014 wet head.
here is the PV2 screen on "compare" with "highlight" on the Delta tab:
here is a shaky screen shot:
question #2,
what is the best/alternate sources for canned maps?
the one's from dynojet were extremely lean on the softail (what is their elevation?)
question #3,
idling 900 RPM, is it good/bad/indifferent (note 929 in the screen shot)
should IETMS work @ 900 RPM?
the map from dynojet for the TK did NOT like to idle, and did not like to start when cold.
and the IETMS made it seem like it wanted to die. (IDK, may have been 900)
I downloaded the S&S map, and it idles great, IETMS works fine (still @ 1000rpm)
How about building off of this map?
found this after some searching:
Instead of focusing on what the bike is doing or not doing in Auto Tune get your VEs dialed in using the S&S tune then flash it.
It is also to my understanding that the EITMS is turned off during Auto Tune session as well as knock control.
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From: Jax FL
The bike runs differently in Auto Tune mode,timing is pulled amongst other things.
Instead of focusing on what the bike is doing or not doing in Auto Tune get your VEs dialed in using the S&S tune then flash it.
It is also to my understanding that the EITMS is turned off during Auto Tune session as well as knock control.
Instead of focusing on what the bike is doing or not doing in Auto Tune get your VEs dialed in using the S&S tune then flash it.
It is also to my understanding that the EITMS is turned off during Auto Tune session as well as knock control.
I did two around town (~20 minute) auto tunes on the S&S map,
and then I did one on the interstate today (30 minutes, 60~80mpH)
loaded it at work, and then another one on the way home.
I will load it in AM and just ride it normal.
thanks again.
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The answer is yes and no. It will change the look of the long-term trims. However, the long-term trims are a moving target. They do just what's happening to you. As fuel or conditions change the LT trims are developed to compensate. Your basic tune won't change BUT the AFV's will change, which in the end changes how your bike runs, good or bad. As you go from bad fuel back to good fuel the trims will move with you, but over time. To make a long story short...bad gas changes things almost immediately...the long-term trims take a little time to catch up.
Then comes the mystery of where the AFV cells are located and specifically which area of the VE's they affect.
Then comes the mystery of where the AFV cells are located and specifically which area of the VE's they affect.
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From: Lake City, Florida
OK so I have all my gauge readings but tried the Autotune a couple of times and I am not getting any VE learned. When I compare the AT tune to the original tune there is no difference at all in the files. So maybe I should do this whole reset/reboot again and see if the AT comes back too.
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Make sure you're sitting in the little green logging screen for it to work.
Click Program.. autotune.. data logger.. and its a green screen. Just make sure AT is set enabled on the map you want to tweak.
Click Program.. autotune.. data logger.. and its a green screen. Just make sure AT is set enabled on the map you want to tweak.
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TIMING
Has anyone else found the need to pull from 3-5 degrees timing around 2750-3000 RPM at cruise speeds? 50-60kpa ranges still produce knock even at 13AFR while tuning lol. What in theeee hek. 91oct cali gas for the suck by the way
Has anyone else found the need to pull from 3-5 degrees timing around 2750-3000 RPM at cruise speeds? 50-60kpa ranges still produce knock even at 13AFR while tuning lol. What in theeee hek. 91oct cali gas for the suck by the way
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New to the PV... Ordered one plus the license from Fuel Moto today. I've read everything from 2014 in this monster thread.... Copied & pasted most of the Noob questions on a word document to reference.....
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