Power Vision Information Thread
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
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From: USA
Received call from FM today asking for my current map so they could make the calibration conversion that will work with the Target Tuner.
Sent map and received converted calibration an hour later. Just cant beat their customer service.
I should be receiving the TT by Thursday.
Message from Brian at FM:
Prior to opening and sending this tune to your Power Vision, please be sure to take note of the following two items:
You must have the latest WinPV software installed (2.0.8.1500)
You must have your Power Vision updated to the latest Firmware (2.0.19-1506) and Tune Database (0.0.9.33)
You will not want to flash this tune into your motorcycle until you have the Target Tune installed on your motorcycle.
Sent map and received converted calibration an hour later. Just cant beat their customer service.
I should be receiving the TT by Thursday.
Message from Brian at FM:
Prior to opening and sending this tune to your Power Vision, please be sure to take note of the following two items:
You must have the latest WinPV software installed (2.0.8.1500)
You must have your Power Vision updated to the latest Firmware (2.0.19-1506) and Tune Database (0.0.9.33)
You will not want to flash this tune into your motorcycle until you have the Target Tune installed on your motorcycle.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
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From: USA
My 2009 Tri Glide went into Limp mode while going down the interstate. Would the PCV have anything to do with this problem. It has a new map in it for the 106 S&S kit installed. It was very hot today and it also did at a stop when the engine went to one cyl. because of the heat,
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
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From: USA
Guys, these mickey mouse tuning gadgets are a waste of money, for the most part. Will they make you think your bike runs better....yes. Does it really run better.....maybe....maybe not. It's all sales and marketing crap. You would be much better served by finding a good vendor that has a proven reputation for matching parts and builds. I dont know how many threads I've read by someone sitting in their garage saying they slammed abc or xyz cams in the bike and it runs like crap. Or i put this or that on my bike and the PV won't fix it. All just as bad as buying these tuners blindly. By the time you're finished wasting your money on tuning gadgets you might wake up and realize it's YOUR PARTS that are mismatched. All I'm saying is you're all better off finding someone that has a proven track record, with the proper equipment, to get it running right. When PV came out the vendors hit the forums with a fury. Then they disappeared. The next "for sale" gizmo comes out and the fury starts again. Really guys, when does it end? I'm all for a solid vendor, with a solid track record, but the forums are starting to become a major venue for those wanting to line their pockets with naive folks money. Most here don't know a VE table from a timing table, yet will mess with a 20k bike because they heard it on a forum. Like I said, you're better off finding a reputable vendor and let them do it for you. How many updates, how many revisions, how many times year after year can they get into your pockets? It's a hoot to hear people saying "I ordered mine today", and they're all proud to hand over their money. It's to the point I don't contribute in the forum any longer.
Advanced
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 87
Likes: 3
From: South Alabama
All that was changed was the calibration so the ECM can recognize the input from the wide-band sensors.
No tweaking or changing of my tune was made. I confirmed this by comparing the returned map with the one i sent to FM.
1st Gear
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 5
Likes: 1
From: Maple Grove, MN, USA
I've been running the map supplied by FM since I got the PV from them in April. I'm finally getting around to Auto Tune. I did a run tonight and had these results. It's the delta between the FM tune and the AT. I plan to do this two more times. After the AT session, I believe it said that my max was 15% with a 2% average.
Are there any other tables that I should look at? These are the only deltas that I could find.
Are there any other tables that I should look at? These are the only deltas that I could find.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 18
From: Upstate SC
Got my converted tune for the target tune yesterday, target tune on FedEx truck for delivery today. Pretty excited to give it a try, the existing setup PV and wideband senors provided me with a very nice tune these past couple years once I got it all dialed in, I am interested to see what if any changes this upgrade will make.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
Likes: 18
From: Upstate SC
They didn't tweak the tune, they set the correct table values so target tune will work. Once the tune is loaded, the bike will be able to use the wideband sensors across the entire map.
I've been running the map supplied by FM since I got the PV from them in April. I'm finally getting around to Auto Tune. I did a run tonight and had these results. It's the delta between the FM tune and the AT. I plan to do this two more times. After the AT session, I believe it said that my max was 15% with a 2% average.
Are there any other tables that I should look at? These are the only deltas that I could find.
Are there any other tables that I should look at? These are the only deltas that I could find.
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Trolls on this forum now, I don't recall quite as much "judgement" on what others chose to spend their money on at the beginnings of this thread but there will always be few in every crowd. I love to tinker with my bike, and I can afford to spend money on it without concern of the return on investment, the return on investment is the exploration itself for me, that's why I bought a device that allows me to data "peep" and tweak.
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Great to see you back Dennis!