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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Jamie- thanks for listening to both direct customers and 'invested' forum members.
Brian- nice work, thanks.

Like others, looking forward to getting into the more technical phases such as, "selecting this ___________ will affect the tune with this result or that result"...
we could work our way through each selection available in the PV list of options on each screen; and in the WinPV s/w screen....
subscribed and looking forward to continued serious customer support.

Much appreciated.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
awesome thanks Jamie.. let us know when you get to the timing and Charge Dilution Effect...

Lmao... i bet you are going to see this one repeated a lot!
 
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Old Oct 12, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
awesome thanks Jamie.. let us know when you get to the timing and Charge Dilution Effect...
THAT would be interesting...

I'd much appreciate a mix of videos both for discoverer AND 'advanced' users...
Cause if we have to wait for the complete story step by step we'd all be running the PROJECTLIVEWIRE !

Courage !
 
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 08:27 PM
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I haven't posted on here for a long time but have been riding and tinkering. My bike has always ran well and I have never heard it ping but there were always some knock events detected and always in the front cylinder. I have been log tuning and chipping away at the timing for quite awhile. I have been wondering if I had some type of problem causing this like an exhaust problem or something more serious. Yesterday for example I had 23 knock events in about an hour of upbeat riding in a strong wind. All in the front cylinder. Last night I looked at the spark plugs and I reversed the front and rear when I put them back in as I remember reading a post somewhere that mentioned spark plugs and an ion sensor to detect detonation or something to that effect. Well I went for a good ride today and no knock detected in the front cylinder now. If stays like this I guess I can go back to some of my previous maps with more timing.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazylegs
I haven't posted on here for a long time but have been riding and tinkering. My bike has always ran well and I have never heard it ping but there were always some knock events detected and always in the front cylinder. I have been log tuning and chipping away at the timing for quite awhile. I have been wondering if I had some type of problem causing this like an exhaust problem or something more serious. Yesterday for example I had 23 knock events in about an hour of upbeat riding in a strong wind. All in the front cylinder. Last night I looked at the spark plugs and I reversed the front and rear when I put them back in as I remember reading a post somewhere that mentioned spark plugs and an ion sensor to detect detonation or something to that effect. Well I went for a good ride today and no knock detected in the front cylinder now. If stays like this I guess I can go back to some of my previous maps with more timing.
That plug probably had a hot spot somewhere on it and the more aggressive timing and leaner VEs for the front cylinder probably got the plug hot enough to cause those knocks. Lots of us struggle with continuous knocks even after dialing in VEs and pulling back timing in the areas where we get knocks. I personally think that the Moco needs to offer cooler plugs as an option. It's idiotic that they don't. Car tuners, as well as any mechanic, knows that the first thing you do when you get a lot of knocking, is to try a cooler heat range plug. The plug is always a hot spot. Add in some carbon buildup and the plug itself causes a lot of the detonation. I asked one of my dealers if they offered cooler plugs and he didn't even seem to know what I was talking about. You can always try other plug brands, but you risk messing up the ion knock detection. However, IMO, if you don't HEAR the knock, it's not bad enough to cause any damage. I've found that riding around with the PV constantly showing me engine data can make me crazy, and certainly takes a lot of the fun out of the ride.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:59 PM
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I wish I had tried this a long time ago. I think I've seen other people with a similar problem and maybe sometimes it is a plug issue. And yes, watching the gauges too much can take the fun out of riding.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Techs at dynojet stated that they never heard of problems using different plugs in the ion sensing bikes.

I am going to try Iridium plugs just because my other bikes run them and they are the exact same plug. I have a box of them sitting on the shelf just dying to go in the harley!

Also, what is stopping you from running a cooler champion plug?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by airfuel
Techs at dynojet stated that they never heard of problems using different plugs in the ion sensing bikes.

I am going to try Iridium plugs just because my other bikes run them and they are the exact same plug. I have a box of them sitting on the shelf just dying to go in the harley!

Also, what is stopping you from running a cooler champion plug?
one more reason to buy from and use FuelMoto support for a DJ product instead of DynoJet support. This is a known issue ever since ION sensing was introduced back in 2006 I believe it was.

Let us know how that turns out for you.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
one more reason to buy from and use FuelMoto support for a DJ product instead of DynoJet support. This is a known issue ever since ION sensing was introduced back in 2006 I believe it was.

Let us know how that turns out for you.
Hmm, PV techs at dynojet who ride Harley's run them....no problem.

Harley Davidson Screamin eagle plugs. Fits all bikes, double platinum.

What's the problem?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by airfuel
Hmm, PV techs at dynojet who ride Harley's run them....no problem.

Harley Davidson Screamin eagle plugs. Fits all bikes, double platinum.

What's the problem?
You're not a good listener.

He's making you aware that lots off issues have been noted. You can choose to ignore the advice, but then why come here at all?
 
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