Power Vision Information Thread
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2011
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From: Watauga, TX
MyTune software from www.tunemyharley.com
it will suggest both VE and timming table corrections using logs from your PV.
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2009
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From: Illinois
For about $30 you might take a look at
MyTune software from www.tunemyharley.com
it will suggest both VE and timming table corrections using logs from your PV.
MyTune software from www.tunemyharley.com
it will suggest both VE and timming table corrections using logs from your PV.
They make you pay $200 for the commercial licence to read the Wideband 02's
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 358
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From: Spain
HI friends, I have a question about the auto tune in Power Vision.
I have a Softail Rocker C, twin cam 96 inch.
Dynojet send me a tune map for my bike for open air filter and big radius exhaust. OK, I installed this tune map and after I did three auto tunes.
When I compared the new auto tune results with the tune map from Dynojet, I saw in the first tune map in the Engine Displacement say 96, in the auto tune results, say in 102,7.
I dont know because change the engine displacement.
I have a Softail Rocker C, twin cam 96 inch.
Dynojet send me a tune map for my bike for open air filter and big radius exhaust. OK, I installed this tune map and after I did three auto tunes.
When I compared the new auto tune results with the tune map from Dynojet, I saw in the first tune map in the Engine Displacement say 96, in the auto tune results, say in 102,7.
I dont know because change the engine displacement.
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Ashby, Ma
HI friends, I have a question about the auto tune in Power Vision.
I have a Softail Rocker C, twin cam 96 inch.
Dynojet send me a tune map for my bike for open air filter and big radius exhaust. OK, I installed this tune map and after I did three auto tunes.
When I compared the new auto tune results with the tune map from Dynojet, I saw in the first tune map in the Engine Displacement say 96, in the auto tune results, say in 102,7.
I dont know because change the engine displacement.
I have a Softail Rocker C, twin cam 96 inch.
Dynojet send me a tune map for my bike for open air filter and big radius exhaust. OK, I installed this tune map and after I did three auto tunes.
When I compared the new auto tune results with the tune map from Dynojet, I saw in the first tune map in the Engine Displacement say 96, in the auto tune results, say in 102,7.
I dont know because change the engine displacement.
Make sure to do Compares, using WinPV from the initial ATs to the next AT, with a setting of "show delta as percent". Once you get to all the cells being within 5% of each other you have reached a state of tune to say you are complete.
PS If your PV wants to continue to scale up to higher and higher displacements and the VEs are all hitting 127 at WOT and high RPMs is an indication of the bike not getting enough fuel and you may have a fuel pump problem. I had this problem.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,566
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From: Londonderry, NH
HI friends, I have a question about the auto tune in Power Vision.
I have a Softail Rocker C, twin cam 96 inch.
Dynojet send me a tune map for my bike for open air filter and big radius exhaust. OK, I installed this tune map and after I did three auto tunes.
When I compared the new auto tune results with the tune map from Dynojet, I saw in the first tune map in the Engine Displacement say 96, in the auto tune results, say in 102,7.
I dont know because change the engine displacement.
I have a Softail Rocker C, twin cam 96 inch.
Dynojet send me a tune map for my bike for open air filter and big radius exhaust. OK, I installed this tune map and after I did three auto tunes.
When I compared the new auto tune results with the tune map from Dynojet, I saw in the first tune map in the Engine Displacement say 96, in the auto tune results, say in 102,7.
I dont know because change the engine displacement.
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,566
Likes: 55
From: Londonderry, NH
That's why it's important to have a good base tune map (where the AFR's and timing have been reworked for your set-up) from a reliable source like Fuel Moto. Dynojet will supply maps, but personally I prefer Fuel Moto for both base maps and support.
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Ashby, Ma
I've heard you can't use Logtuner with the new bikes. But I'm not sure that's true. There is a bug in Logtuner that occured at some point for lack of ongoing software maintenance from Dynojet, but there is an easy workaround for it, if you know how to do a simple edit to a file, using any text editor.
Use these directions. and look at the added workaround at the end of the directions. Give LT a try it works great. Most will use Autotune for fuel (VEs) and then LT for timing. (Spark tables.)
Here is my Dropbox link to a doc file with the directions.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5vmexx40q...tions.doc?dl=0
And to underline what NH1Rider stated above you need a good base tune to start. FM being the value added preferred vendor for their excellent support and great basemaps.
Logtuner will NOT add to timing, but will identify areas that you are getting spark knock events and decrease timing.
Use these directions. and look at the added workaround at the end of the directions. Give LT a try it works great. Most will use Autotune for fuel (VEs) and then LT for timing. (Spark tables.)
Here is my Dropbox link to a doc file with the directions.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5vmexx40q...tions.doc?dl=0
And to underline what NH1Rider stated above you need a good base tune to start. FM being the value added preferred vendor for their excellent support and great basemaps.
Logtuner will NOT add to timing, but will identify areas that you are getting spark knock events and decrease timing.
Last edited by oldhippie; Oct 3, 2015 at 09:18 AM.
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 358
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From: Spain
The problem, when I did the auto tune and at the moment to save, power vision dont question me about this option. Power vision saved the tune directly.
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From: Ashby, Ma
Before i did the auto tune, I saw in youtube the videos about the auto tunes and the optiom of scale or cap when i save the tune map.
The problem, when I did the auto tune and at the moment to save, power vision dont question me about this option. Power vision saved the tune directly.
The problem, when I did the auto tune and at the moment to save, power vision dont question me about this option. Power vision saved the tune directly.
If it's just one or two cells, you can make the decision to just cap. But if it's a lot of cells then scale-up would be recommended. With your build, pretty open breathing and exhaust, it doesn't surprise me that it wants to add more fuel, especially at WOT and high rpm.
PS I haven't done an autoune with the latest updates, I suppose it's posible that the PV just makes the decision for you now. But I have read anyone else mention that out here.
Last edited by oldhippie; Oct 3, 2015 at 02:11 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 220
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From: Orlando
Can you look at the displacement value of the original tune? Upscaling, as NHRider1 stated, is done at the save point. It will make a statement stating there are values greater than 125 "do you want to scale up"?
If it's just one or two cells, you can make the decision to just cap. But if it's a lot of cells then scale-up would be recommended. With your build, pretty open breathing and exhaust, it doesn't surprise me that it wants to add more fuel, especially at WOT and high rpm.
PS I haven't done an autoune with the latest updates, I suppose it's posible that the PV just makes the decision for you now. But I have read anyone else mention that out here.
If it's just one or two cells, you can make the decision to just cap. But if it's a lot of cells then scale-up would be recommended. With your build, pretty open breathing and exhaust, it doesn't surprise me that it wants to add more fuel, especially at WOT and high rpm.
PS I haven't done an autoune with the latest updates, I suppose it's posible that the PV just makes the decision for you now. But I have read anyone else mention that out here.
I had the option to scale mine. I have the 555 cam and when I had it dyno'd here in Florida, my displacement now says I have a 132.3 CI bike...haha. Runs like a beast though so I can't complain.