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Old Sep 12, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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It's not only the sound. The bike has no engine braking at all. Like before. There is no holding back going downhill. Gearing down does nothing
I know what you mean, and I love that about the fp3, ill be flying a turn will pop up, let off gas ,bike slows itself down, with that sweet sound.....but I'm going power vision now, as I went to a hillside 107 build...lol
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 10:56 AM
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got another map to try from FM & installed but no different. I know some say not to but if you tune by the way pipes sound, its way off, with baffles in probably wouldn't notice it but with them out cruising bout 1900 to 2200 rpm it sound really rich. looked at AFR, said it was 14.2 to 14.6 and same issue when letting off throttle. guess I will just pony up & put my cams in this winter(48H) & take to a dealership to tune. cause I'm done.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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got another map to try from FM & installed but no different. I know some say not to but if you tune by the way pipes sound, its way off, with baffles in probably wouldn't notice it but with them out cruising bout 1900 to 2200 rpm it sound really rich. looked at AFR, said it was 14.2 to 14.6 and same issue when letting off throttle. guess I will just pony up & put my cams in this winter(48H) & take to a dealership to tune. cause I'm done.
so the FM maps aren't what everyone says they are that sucks, I believe tho, I asked for a 107 map with ss 570 cams, said he can't tune with those cams, GUESS WHAT DIAL S&S PHONE NUMBER AFTER HOURS ITS FUEL MOTO???NO ****??? SO THEY DONT TUNE THERE OWN CAMS?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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got another map to try from FM & installed but no different. I know some say not to but if you tune by the way pipes sound, its way off, with baffles in probably wouldn't notice it but with them out cruising bout 1900 to 2200 rpm it sound really rich. looked at AFR, said it was 14.2 to 14.6 and same issue when letting off throttle. guess I will just pony up & put my cams in this winter(48H) & take to a dealership to tune. cause I'm done.
In your request you noted you wanted to make your bike louder when rolling off the throttle and wanted more engine braking, as I noted unfortunately that is not something that can be accommodated thru the tune.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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I understand I'll get it figured out later. Thanks
 
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Old Sep 13, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TOMMYBLAZIN
so the FM maps aren't what everyone says they are that sucks, I believe tho, I asked for a 107 map with ss 570 cams, said he can't tune with those cams, GUESS WHAT DIAL S&S PHONE NUMBER AFTER HOURS ITS FUEL MOTO???NO ****??? SO THEY DONT TUNE THERE OWN CAMS?
S&S and Fuel Moto are completely different companies, we are both located in Wisconsin; and no the S&S after hours is not Fuel Moto. When you contacted us thru several channels both Brian and Patrick noted our 107 maps are developed with Wood's cams primarily (as that's what we use in our kits) and while we have maps with many cams (including S&S) we did not have an exact match for your combination; we would supply a base map that would require additional tuning. With your mods we recommended a custom dyno tune.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tomoad
got another map to try from FM & installed but no different. I know some say not to but if you tune by the way pipes sound, its way off, with baffles in probably wouldn't notice it but with them out cruising bout 1900 to 2200 rpm it sound really rich. looked at AFR, said it was 14.2 to 14.6 and same issue when letting off throttle. guess I will just pony up & put my cams in this winter(48H) & take to a dealership to tune. cause I'm done.
I have never heard of tuning by sound. How does that work? If you are cruising at 1900-2200, you won't have any engine braking because the motor is lugging.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 12:25 PM
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In your request you noted you wanted to make your bike louder when rolling off the throttle and wanted more engine braking, as I noted unfortunately that is not something that can be accommodated thru the tune.
That's an exceptionally nice way to put it Jamie.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 02:48 PM
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You evidently haven't tuned a carberator ! Sound & plug reading
 
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Old Sep 15, 2017 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
S&S and Fuel Moto are completely different companies, we are both located in Wisconsin; and no the S&S after hours is not Fuel Moto. When you contacted us thru several channels both Brian and Patrick noted our 107 maps are developed with Wood's cams primarily (as that's what we use in our kits) and while we have maps with many cams (including S&S) we did not have an exact match for your combination; we would supply a base map that would require additional tuning. With your mods we recommended a custom dyno tune.
WHAT. I said was when I called your number on your site, it answered SS, so naturally I was confused when u said u didn't tune SS cams, no offense, wouldn't you think the same???? I just bought a power vision and a target tune from you guys will be here tomorrow, and I plan on buying a 117 kit for my breakout over winter, I'm not bashing you so please don't take offense, I just was confused is all????
 
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