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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 08:15 PM
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Awesome rules to live by. The hard part for me is not to get side tracked while debating negotiations.
I make a terrible business man. But a great cage fighter. The latter has never bared fruit either tho LOL
 
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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by splattttttt
Awesome rules to live by. The hard part for me is not to get side tracked while debating negotiations.
I make a terrible business man. But a great cage fighter. The latter has never bared fruit either tho LOL
Sometimes a good ole fashion cage fight is in order. Been there, done that too. But never seen a situation involving a broken Harley that’ll get it fixed any faster by getting emotional or making threats. Just slows things down, even if it makes you feel better in the moment. In the end, they’re just metal & rubber toys... they break..... sometimes more then they should and sometimes at the worst times. But there’s far more important things in life to get worked up over than a broken toy.
 

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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
Problem with all of this is HD applied there latest fix to one of my bikes. Rode it back from the shop and parked it which was about 18 miles. Next day checked the fluid level in the transmission and nothing was showing on the stick! Not much of a fix in my book. I own one of each oil cooled and water cooled and they both do it.

This is a design flaw and it will happen to each and every M8 if ridden in the proper conditions.

HD now coming out and claiming it is normal for fluid to transfer, just shows they have no idea what to do and how to fix it. If it were normal why has it never been in the past? Why has it not been in any service manuals or owners manuals?
So, are they REALLY going the "That's normal, they all do that" route now? Truly amazing! Even with my abysmally-low opinion of the MoCo, I'm still surprised.

If true, I called it as a probability about a week ago. I was just being sarcastic, guess I momentarily forgot how the MoCo treats its customers.

Since it's "normal" now, I guess that lets the poor MoCo off the hook for finding a fix. They must figure that a class-action suit will be cheaper in the long run.

MoCo logic - gotta love it!
 

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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 08:13 AM
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I met a non forum guy yesterday that made the statement that he hopes I don’t go through what he did with his M8 Limited... stage 2 that had sumping at 10k. He is at 16k now and had 6 weeks down time as they replaced the engine and upgraded the oil pump, but he was down for 6 weeks.

As as far as the MoCo saying the migration issue is “normal”, I'd force the 1k level checks on the dealership until they fix it... can you imagine the lines at service if this is really widespread? That’d be great advertising for the new buyers.

Im @1200 on my 18, with nothing to report... other than checking fluids a lot because of this thread.
 

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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 08:19 AM
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Has anyone heard of any fluid migration or sumping ( not sure what it is ) problem with any Softail models ? I have a Fat Boy on order ( 114 engine) and this makes me a little nervous !
 
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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JollyRogers
I met a non forum guy yesterday that made the statement that he hopes I don’t go through what he did with his M8 Limited... stage 2 that had sumping at 10k. He is at 16k now and had 6 weeks down time as they replaced the engine and upgraded the oil pump, but he was down for 6 weeks.

As as far as the MoCo saying the migration issue is “normal”, I'd force the 1k level checks on the dealership until they fix it... can you imagine the lines at service if this is really widespread? That’d be great advertising for the new buyers.

Im @1200 on my 18, with nothing to report... other than checking fluids a lot because of this thread.
OK, I finally got it!

It actually IS "normal" for a defective part/design to have problems - therefore all the problems with the tranny, CC sumping etc. are perfectly normal under these specific circumstances.

Easy-peasy! And the MoCo isn't even lying about it - technically.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by yankees1996
Has anyone heard of any fluid migration or sumping ( not sure what it is ) problem with any Softail models ? I have a Fat Boy on order ( 114 engine) and this makes me a little nervous !
I haven't seen it yet on this forum. Nothing at my local dealer either....that I've picked up on.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yankees1996
Has anyone heard of any fluid migration or sumping ( not sure what it is ) problem with any Softail models ? I have a Fat Boy on order ( 114 engine) and this makes me a little nervous !
I don’t own an M8 but with all the talk of people on their 2nd-3rd motor ,sumping and oil transfer issues , I’d keep my money in my pocket till the brainiac’s at the moco work this **** out ( Well not unless you want to be a part of their product development team ).

Im just glad I got my sporty with an evo motor . It may not be as powerful or pretty , but I’d ride this bastard across country and back tomorrow and not miss a wink of sleep thinking about it.

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2017 Street Glide Special stage 3 kit. Bike was making loud clanking noise on highway. I pulled off and called towing outfit. Turns out rear piston was ready to seize. Dealer ordered two new pistons, one jug, oil pump and few other parts. 1200 miles on bike. I have contacted two dealers so far that have each seen two bikes come in with oil pump issues.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ssmarkom3
Hello,
2017 Street Glide Special stage 3 kit. Bike was making loud clanking noise on highway. I pulled off and called towing outfit. Turns out rear piston was ready to seize. Dealer ordered two new pistons, one jug, oil pump and few other parts. 1200 miles on bike. I have contacted two dealers so far that have each seen two bikes come in with oil pump issues.
So was the prime cause of the failure the oil pump? . Just asking as too what the few other parts were.

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