Originally Posted by iHodor

I think all of you are correct. But unless they do something conclusive before too long they'll soon have 4 model years that remain susceptible. I doubt they want to go there so their quandary is likely this; how do we fix this without introducing a new motor that is not a complete redesign and at the same time take care of those 3 years that are already out there and at risk.

One thing they could do is to provide every original owner of the 2017-2019 years with an extended warranty on the motor to cover future problems, and fix the problem for 2020 onwards with a case redesign that is not an entire motor redesign.

Car manufacturers are known to do this, in fact we received a 10 year, 100K mile warranty on the transmission in my 2017 Subaru for no charge more than a year after we bought the car. What that solution does is that it keeps the original owners happy with their purchase with only a smaller percentage of them actually needing to eventually exercise it. And this is much less expensive than recalling all of them to replace the defective part(s) whether they'd ever be needed or not.

If we could all ride for the next x number of years knowing that if sumping occurs the moco will cover it, we'd be happy campers, while only a small fraction would experience it. And most would be singing the company's praises for making the best out of a bad situation.

Originally Posted by Oz Dan

Because that is not the point. The point is, this fellow has been deceitful all along, as pointed out by many people in the replies above. He has made warranty claims that others rightly point out were unjustified after modding his bike and breaking it. He then uses false logic, suggesting everyone mods their bikes so what is different? Well, others are owning their actions if and when something goes wrong - he didn’t. Others also don’t delete their post history to hide the truth. That’s a totally different situation yet he is so conceited, or just so simple, that he just cant see it.

As an aside, this fellow also makes claims about all kinds of things Harley whilst claiming all he posts are facts....brake rotors for example.....fellow claims these are not warranty items, goes onto claim inferior suppliers etc etc.....goes onto claim replacing will only lead to same issues etc etc.....none of it true. I had both rotors replaced under warranty and can prove it with paperwork......but not according to the great one, his “fact” says they are always a consumable item not covered by warranty. Wrong! I can also attest to the replacements being fine and not warping after replacement, and inform folks that the issue with my warped rotors was actually due to incorrect variable torque specs from factory. Nothing to do with inferior rotor quality. Just an example of this person preaching his fact against my reality but treating his fact as gospel.

But regardless of any particular single item or issue, this fellow then tries to eliminate all that went before his sumping issues by deleting info he himself had posted all over the internet to cover his deceit. And it’s not something people are going to let him get away with anymore, especially given his continuous never ending overzealous fixation about the issues his bikes had and his insistence to project doom and gloom onto every other m8 owner that is looking for decent information - just because he has an axe to grind, modes his bikes, rides them to near destruction and carried on like a chop thereafter.

This fellow is on my ignore list and that really is the best way of dealing with trolls such as he.....starve him of oxygen. Most people come here for help and information but when people like this project only their own predjudice ad infinitum, by repeating dishonest half truths and downright complete lies, it is not a contribution it is misinformation and it rightly pisses people off.

To the OP - there has been something like 3 to 4 thousand touring M8’s sold in Australia since their inception in 2017. We had a retired dealer tell us under 20 total across the country had slumped. I think if the point of your question is can you buy a M8 and reasonably expect it will be ok in respect to this issue, the answer surely is yes.

That’s my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by Steve Cole

Well said!
The problem with using the ignore feature is Heatwave will continue to spread his BS and claim it as fact, which is really sad. Then, those who do not know better get the wrong idea or worse follow (as you so well expressed), his deceitful, dishonest half truths and downright complete lies and end up with more problems than they may have started with. He claims everyone is out to get him, but he just cannot understand that he has done it to himself and continues to do so. There is an old saying that about sums up Heatwave, I think it goes something like this...................... Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me.