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OK, here is my big news on the crank run-out, been churning this decision around and because of the pain involved of shipping a crank/pulling the case/splitting the case I had decided to take my chances and not do anything but I got an email from a local motorcycle mech here that had helped me before and he said he could help me get it done. I will pull the case(75% there already) and take it to him and he will split the case for me, ship it to Darkhorse(most likely) and then reassemble the case with Timken on the left and a new bearing on the right too(can't remember what kind - maybe y'all can help?).
Anyway looks like I will have more work ahead and more $$ into the build but should be interesting and a solid build.
Sorry djl, no 117", got to draw the line somewhere, in my books that would be at least another grand and I have planned my cams/throttle body/etc for a strong 107" and that is where I am heading.
Thanks for everybody's input on the crank decision - I was "split"
over it but looks like crank repair is coming
Soft 02 - watch over me pulling that case, probably wont happen until next week. I have to work to pay the bills Thurs - Sun.
Anyway looks like I will have more work ahead and more $$ into the build but should be interesting and a solid build.
Sorry djl, no 117", got to draw the line somewhere, in my books that would be at least another grand and I have planned my cams/throttle body/etc for a strong 107" and that is where I am heading.
Thanks for everybody's input on the crank decision - I was "split"
over it but looks like crank repair is comingSoft 02 - watch over me pulling that case, probably wont happen until next week. I have to work to pay the bills Thurs - Sun.
Alan, it sounds like you're turning this into my kind of project. .go in with a researched plan of what you're going to do and what your budget is. .come out a few months later, budget blown and the whole thing replaced. I'm going to enjoy being on the opposite end of the stick, though!
I would have to go back and look(I saved your thread), I do remember some wood strips at the bottom for the flywheels but that is all I remember.
If y'all have not figured it out by now, I am very good with instructions but maybe not so good at improvising(engineering type!), if there are instructions anywhere on how to ship a case then I could make it happen.
Is the $500 so bad? Or is it that Darkhorse is so great at sealing a case or what?
If y'all have not figured it out by now, I am very good with instructions but maybe not so good at improvising(engineering type!), if there are instructions anywhere on how to ship a case then I could make it happen.
Is the $500 so bad? Or is it that Darkhorse is so great at sealing a case or what?
Matt
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Hey Matt, I was waiting for your input. It is just kinda frustrating, most of what I had been hearing was how important it is to get your crank fixed(especially at HTT), now that I found a way to get that done all I am hearing is how important it is that Darkhorse splits your case. I know I must be feeling what you felt when you thought you had everything back together then transmission case crack. Yeah you are right, it is easier on the "other side".
After sleeping on it, I feel like if it is so difficult to split a case, install 2 bearings and reassemble the case , I may just skip it again. I was so borderline before that it would not take a whole lot to go back to Plan A. I hate coming off as wishy washy, but I am treading in much deeper water than I wanted to(like you were) and I just want to make sure I get back to land
The Indy I was wanting to use has dealt with cranks and Darkhorse(and Tman) many times before and has been working on Harleys a long time, he even has a Dyno machine. Talking to him about the job gave me confidence(although shakened now), he was well familiar with Timken, setting end play, etc.. He has a great rep around this small area and seems very fair and honest, when he fixed my exhaust O2 threads on my pipes he refused to take any money because it was too easy for him.
After sleeping on it, I feel like if it is so difficult to split a case, install 2 bearings and reassemble the case , I may just skip it again. I was so borderline before that it would not take a whole lot to go back to Plan A. I hate coming off as wishy washy, but I am treading in much deeper water than I wanted to(like you were) and I just want to make sure I get back to land
The Indy I was wanting to use has dealt with cranks and Darkhorse(and Tman) many times before and has been working on Harleys a long time, he even has a Dyno machine. Talking to him about the job gave me confidence(although shakened now), he was well familiar with Timken, setting end play, etc.. He has a great rep around this small area and seems very fair and honest, when he fixed my exhaust O2 threads on my pipes he refused to take any money because it was too easy for him.
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"I feel like if it is so difficult to split a case, install 2 bearings and reassemble the case , I may just skip it again."
So are you having the crank worked on by your indy now. .? Not real clear from your post if you're canceling crankwork altogether or not.
I think the problem we all get in with this stuff is seeing the pile of parts and knowing that it isn't going back together for a longer time or for the cost planned on and it's depressing. I think you need to take a moment, step away from it, and make the best decision you can. If you want the crank fixed to be 100% satisfied, then you will find a way to get it done in a manner you're comfortable with. Even if that means buying an engine stand off eBay and bolting the sucker down to a crate for shipping.
When I broke the transmission housing my initial thoughts were crap, I got in over my head, I'm going to take this to someone and admit I bit off more than I could chew. A few days later I was back at it, reading about transmission housing removal. .studying. .and said heck with it I can do this. It was scary, but I got it done, and I know I did it right.
So are you having the crank worked on by your indy now. .? Not real clear from your post if you're canceling crankwork altogether or not.
I think the problem we all get in with this stuff is seeing the pile of parts and knowing that it isn't going back together for a longer time or for the cost planned on and it's depressing. I think you need to take a moment, step away from it, and make the best decision you can. If you want the crank fixed to be 100% satisfied, then you will find a way to get it done in a manner you're comfortable with. Even if that means buying an engine stand off eBay and bolting the sucker down to a crate for shipping.
When I broke the transmission housing my initial thoughts were crap, I got in over my head, I'm going to take this to someone and admit I bit off more than I could chew. A few days later I was back at it, reading about transmission housing removal. .studying. .and said heck with it I can do this. It was scary, but I got it done, and I know I did it right.
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Now you are lurking around like I was for your S&S 106" kit!
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"I feel like if it is so difficult to split a case, install 2 bearings and reassemble the case , I may just skip it again."
So are you having the crank worked on by your indy now. .? Not real clear from your post if you're canceling crankwork altogether or not.
I think the problem we all get in with this stuff is seeing the pile of parts and knowing that it isn't going back together for a longer time or for the cost planned on and it's depressing. I think you need to take a moment, step away from it, and make the best decision you can. If you want the crank fixed to be 100% satisfied, then you will find a way to get it done in a manner you're comfortable with. Even if that means buying an engine stand off eBay and bolting the sucker down to a crate for shipping.
When I broke the transmission housing my initial thoughts were crap, I got in over my head, I'm going to take this to someone and admit I bit off more than I could chew. A few days later I was back at it, reading about transmission housing removal. .studying. .and said heck with it I can do this. It was scary, but I got it done, and I know I did it right.
So are you having the crank worked on by your indy now. .? Not real clear from your post if you're canceling crankwork altogether or not.
I think the problem we all get in with this stuff is seeing the pile of parts and knowing that it isn't going back together for a longer time or for the cost planned on and it's depressing. I think you need to take a moment, step away from it, and make the best decision you can. If you want the crank fixed to be 100% satisfied, then you will find a way to get it done in a manner you're comfortable with. Even if that means buying an engine stand off eBay and bolting the sucker down to a crate for shipping.
When I broke the transmission housing my initial thoughts were crap, I got in over my head, I'm going to take this to someone and admit I bit off more than I could chew. A few days later I was back at it, reading about transmission housing removal. .studying. .and said heck with it I can do this. It was scary, but I got it done, and I know I did it right.
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Alan just send the crank off and dont do the Timkin bearing. While its the most durable set up. Crank bearings arnt failing on these newer bikes. Just do the lefty on both sides and be done with it. Its easy to split the case and pull the crank.
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"I feel like if it is so difficult to split a case, install 2 bearings and reassemble the case , I may just skip it again."
So are you having the crank worked on by your indy now. .? Not real clear from your post if you're canceling crankwork altogether or not.
I think the problem we all get in with this stuff is seeing the pile of parts and knowing that it isn't going back together for a longer time or for the cost planned on and it's depressing. I think you need to take a moment, step away from it, and make the best decision you can. If you want the crank fixed to be 100% satisfied, then you will find a way to get it done in a manner you're comfortable with. Even if that means buying an engine stand off eBay and bolting the sucker down to a crate for shipping.
When I broke the transmission housing my initial thoughts were crap, I got in over my head, I'm going to take this to someone and admit I bit off more than I could chew. A few days later I was back at it, reading about transmission housing removal. .studying. .and said heck with it I can do this. It was scary, but I got it done, and I know I did it right.
So are you having the crank worked on by your indy now. .? Not real clear from your post if you're canceling crankwork altogether or not.
I think the problem we all get in with this stuff is seeing the pile of parts and knowing that it isn't going back together for a longer time or for the cost planned on and it's depressing. I think you need to take a moment, step away from it, and make the best decision you can. If you want the crank fixed to be 100% satisfied, then you will find a way to get it done in a manner you're comfortable with. Even if that means buying an engine stand off eBay and bolting the sucker down to a crate for shipping.
When I broke the transmission housing my initial thoughts were crap, I got in over my head, I'm going to take this to someone and admit I bit off more than I could chew. A few days later I was back at it, reading about transmission housing removal. .studying. .and said heck with it I can do this. It was scary, but I got it done, and I know I did it right.
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No, the plan was to have my Indy split the case for me and ship the crank to Darkhorse(most likely choice). The crank comes back to him and he installs the Timken and reassembles the case, hands it back to me. But now I am getting the feedback that Darkhorse needs to be the one doing the splitting, etc...
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These sounds like a good plan, I had heard several times that the Timken is somewhat of an overkill, might save some $$. Can you tell me exactly what a "lefty" is for my bike? Thanks, again.