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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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Today I was unable to physically work on my bike at all(too many domestic duties), but I feel like a lot of clouds have been lifted by inputs like this. The Darkhorse price sheet was always a little hard to figure out, but I think I will do that $495 service and call it good! Thanks everybody!
Getting it ballanced is a good move!
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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I see on the Darkhorse price sheet under "Additional Options to Service procedures" - Weld crankpin for $29.95. I thought that would be included in any service, should I add that?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 08:26 AM
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I think most get it welded.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mattVA
I think most get it welded.
Hey Matt looks like I will be heading back into the primary, do you recommend that Hayden - I was at a website not long ago where some of the Haydens on Sportsters failed, but that is about the only place I have heard anything bad, mostly positive.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by alansummrs
The Darkhorse price sheet was always a little hard to figure out, but I think I will do that $495 service and call it good! Thanks everybody!
Originally Posted by alansummrs
I see on the Darkhorse price sheet under "Additional Options to Service procedures" - Weld crankpin for $29.95. I thought that would be included in any service, should I add that?
I believe by choosing the $495 service package ypu will get,
trued, plugged, ballanced and welded.

They will also inspect con rod bearings and the con rod pin bushings.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by alansummrs
Hey Matt looks like I will be heading back into the primary, do you recommend that Hayden - I was at a website not long ago where some of the Haydens on Sportsters failed, but that is about the only place I have heard anything bad, mostly positive.
Alan, I think the design is rock solid now, at least for the BT's. No Cents runs it in his monster engine.

I posted a review yesterday here: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/prima...07-review.html

"I know there's a lot of reviews out there for this product so I'll keep this brief with my initial impressions.

I installed the Hayden along with a 2014 Compensator into my 2009 Dyna. Initial gap from bottom of the shoe to guide plate was 0.265". After 50 miles I removed the cover to inspect, gap was then 0.315" with no wear in the shoe yet. Perhaps a loose spot on the chain vs tight spot.

First ride, lots of odd noises, rattling etc, went away quickly. Now I have an odd 'buzzing' noise after 80 miles on the tensioner. If I hit the right RPM around 2800, and hold it there, the buzzing becomes very pronounced. All other RPM's I can hear it slightly. Not sure if this is the same as the 'whining' some have reported. Hopefully this goes away when the chain wears into the shoe as it's pretty disconcerting, especially when I hit that spot where it gets loud.

Gear shifting is much smoother, more of a click than a clunk. Vibrations haven't changed at all and I still have a rough spot 2800-3200RPM which has been there for a long time now. Was hoping that would go away, and it still might once this wears in. 10" snow forecasted here in DC today so will be a while before I can take it out some more.

Can anyone chime in that has installed the Hayden on what sorts of noises it made? Not sure what 'whining' sounds like."

Assuming the odd noise goes away (my research says it can take 4-500 miles) then I definitely recommend it.

Matt
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Alan, John will tell you himself that they don't weld cranks unless the customer requests; Darkhorse relys on their pro-plug to hold the crank together. Once the crank is trued, sometimes welding can pull it off just a tad and welding makes it more difficult to disassemble in the future. Welding the crankpin is not included in any of the Darkhorse crank service packages; only by customer request and any and all liabilty associated with welding the crankpin is passes on to the requesting customer.

Not suggesting that you pass on welding the crankpin, just letting you know that with the Darkhorse pro-plug, welding is not necessary.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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Thanks Matt - going to order the Hayden M6

Thanks djl - I will probably end up talking to John at some point, but gaining all this info will help me make the right decisions and from what you have said I plan on skipping the weld.
 
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I got the SE Compensator and Hayden M6 for my build as well. Should make the entire drive much smoother and the SE comp. should add the extra cushion to the botom end when I really crack the throttle.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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any updates on this yet
 
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