Power Vision Information Thread
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: kingston ontario
Since this was posted I have added the SE255 cams and changed my mufflers to 2012 CVOs. The calibration I have autotuned is less then 2% Delta. I spent a lot of time on my timing after getting the VEs dialed in. Though I have a slight valley in the 2750 and 3000 rpm areas the bike runs great with nice manners in the lower map areas. Whack the throttle and there's no hesitation. I have even started out in 2nd gear by accident on occasion with no ill effects, no bucking. I recently returned from a 10 day road trip and the calibration settled in nicely. I chose not to do any smoothing like I did before so that the ECM could do it's thing. I monitored for spark knock and CLI on the trip. CLIs were fantastic and only had one incident of 1.5* knock retard show up in all of 3000 miles.
Today I did something I never do, rode the trike with sneakers and no socks. Heat was not an issue. Don't know if I'm up to riding in shorts.
Long story short, I am so pleased with the way it's running, I don't have need to play with CDE. Besides I don't want to reset my fuel trims.
If you want to play with CDE make your first pass with a 30% increase and observe what changed after a datarun. Personally I no longer see the need to have a visual pleasing to the eye graph. The engine told me what it needs with all the autotuning I did. Seems to be working correctly.
Hope this helps.
Today I did something I never do, rode the trike with sneakers and no socks. Heat was not an issue. Don't know if I'm up to riding in shorts.
Long story short, I am so pleased with the way it's running, I don't have need to play with CDE. Besides I don't want to reset my fuel trims.
If you want to play with CDE make your first pass with a 30% increase and observe what changed after a datarun. Personally I no longer see the need to have a visual pleasing to the eye graph. The engine told me what it needs with all the autotuning I did. Seems to be working correctly.
Hope this helps.
thanks for the update delta, sounds like you are happy with the way it is running for you.
when it comes to cde/egr i may be wrong but i dont think it is about having a smooth looking map, more about getting proper air flow while dealing with reversion.... tho i may be wrong about this.
would love to hear from anyone who has played with this.....seems like its a aspect that is avoided by most.
Last edited by goats; Jun 6, 2013 at 04:11 AM.
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Ventura, CA
Open your current tune in WinPV and load the previous tune as compare. Under setup tab, select Show Delta as Percent then view the Delta between your VE tables. changes will show as percent.
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From: KY
Thanks ssmith579. From the compare I see that I'm not even close after 8 runs.
Min of 6 and up to 20 percent. Also a difference between cyl. The area needing most work in front cyl. is low rpm, low throttle. While the rear cyl. is mid rpm, low throttle. So I need to putt around at low throttle? Does that really buy me anything? Thanks, Kranky.
Min of 6 and up to 20 percent. Also a difference between cyl. The area needing most work in front cyl. is low rpm, low throttle. While the rear cyl. is mid rpm, low throttle. So I need to putt around at low throttle? Does that really buy me anything? Thanks, Kranky.
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From: Big ol Titties
Thanks ssmith579. From the compare I see that I'm not even close after 8 runs.
Min of 6 and up to 20 percent. Also a difference between cyl. The area needing most work in front cyl. is low rpm, low throttle. While the rear cyl. is mid rpm, low throttle. So I need to putt around at low throttle? Does that really buy me anything? Thanks, Kranky.
Min of 6 and up to 20 percent. Also a difference between cyl. The area needing most work in front cyl. is low rpm, low throttle. While the rear cyl. is mid rpm, low throttle. So I need to putt around at low throttle? Does that really buy me anything? Thanks, Kranky.
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2011
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From: Ventura, CA
Lol, glasses. Seriously, I did many tuning runs without it mounted and really don't know how well I was covering the whole map. After mounting it I could see all the cells I was hitting(couldn't read them though). I really didn't like putting around at 1000 RPM and trying to hit the 80 KPa column either.
Tourer
Joined: Dec 2012
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From: Northwest OH
I have had a Fuelmoto map flashed ever since I put in my Wood 555 cams. I finally did my first autotune. Their map was close, but wow what a difference bike runs a lot smoother as those lower rpms needed for riding in town and over all just seems to be smoother.
Question is it said VE1 2% -15% from what I understand you are suppose to get this around 3%? Am I understanding this correctly, looking for guidance on what all I need to look for and do.
Thanks,
Mike
Question is it said VE1 2% -15% from what I understand you are suppose to get this around 3%? Am I understanding this correctly, looking for guidance on what all I need to look for and do.
Thanks,
Mike
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Clue me in on this Autotune.
If I run one ane save it . The latter run Auto Tune on it again and chose save learned values it will improve The Results of the Auto tune.
So far I have ran Auto tune 3 times and the Map supplied by Jamie at Fuel Moto has Given the best over all
If I run one ane save it . The latter run Auto Tune on it again and chose save learned values it will improve The Results of the Auto tune.
So far I have ran Auto tune 3 times and the Map supplied by Jamie at Fuel Moto has Given the best over all