Power Vision Information Thread
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Graysville, AL
Hello, I'm looking for a small Acer style netbook computer. I see a lot of deals on Chromebook laptops. My concern is downloading the Power Vision software to the computer. Anybody got experience or suggestions on a good small/portable netbook?
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2010
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
The chromebook uses Chrome operating system and doubt it will work at all. I have a Asus - Transformer Book T100TAF - 10.1" - Intel Atom - 32GB - With Keyboard - Gray. It has Windows 8.1 and a full size USB port. I think you will need the Windows operating system to have the USB and be compatible with the Win/PV software. It is also a 2 in 1 with removable keyboard. I have hauled mine around in tourpak for many miles. Good part is less than $300 and works as well as Son in laws Surface Pro for what I need. Even came with Ms Office 1 year free and removable keyboard. Usb plugs into the keyboard. I have SEPST, Win/PV, PCV all on it.
Novice
Joined: Jun 2012
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From: Loysville, PA
Ok so I am having what seems to me an issue with TT Autotuning. I have been doing a bunch of tuning runs and most of the cells have become pretty consistent but there is a band in MAP 30 of cells 2250,2500,2750 that just keep giving me consistent 15+ change which I have been scaling to accommodate but displacement is now at 148.7 ( started at 96.7) should I have been selecting to just cap instead? See attached
Ok so I am having what seems to me an issue with TT Autotuning. I have been doing a bunch of tuning runs and most of the cells have become pretty consistent but there is a band in MAP 30 of cells 2250,2500,2750 that just keep giving me consistent 15+ change which I have been scaling to accommodate but displacement is now at 148.7 ( started at 96.7) should I have been selecting to just cap instead? See attached
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The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
Last edited by fuelmoto; Aug 19, 2015 at 07:29 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
Looking at your VE tables what is happening is when you are in Auto Tune mode you are trying to tune (or essentially de-tune) the decel area, you cannot do this as there are high amounts of reversion & other factors present in this area of the tune. In the Auto Tune screen under Settings you will set the Min MAP value to prevent this from happening or the system can keep continually adding fuel, this is not unique to Target Tune it applies to any system that uses O2 feedback. Depending on the specific MAP value the motor idles at we generally recommend setting Min MAP to 30Kpa, Auto Tune will then ignore the O2 sensors below this value. You will for sure want to reload your 96" map and start over with the Auto Tune process, just make sure the Min MAP for corrections is set properly. If you need any help getting things set up or tuned just let us know.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
Have been tuning my sportster using auto tune and w/b sensors, but there are just some areas that arr hard to hit, mainly high rpms and full throttle, just goes through the rpm range too fast for the auto tune to pick up the ve tables, lots of open blocks, and many showing + 15 so I cap them and rerun auto tune again and again. Have a dyno tune scheduled by one of the best in the area but that is not till september. Will TT do a better job than the at module or should I get the dyno (500$) he spends all day on a bike, or will TT bring it close to a good professional tune. Have Bassani road rage, screaming eagle a/c and cams. Looking at head work and higher compression later this winter.
Thinking about just getting the Target Tune and going from there and getting it dynoed after all the engine mods are done.
Thanks,
Jack
Thinking about just getting the Target Tune and going from there and getting it dynoed after all the engine mods are done.
Thanks,
Jack
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
So....why do we need a converted tune for two products coming from the same company? Delphi can already read the voltages. I'm just curious why a handful years ago the PV was so great at 14.6 and now folks need to outlay another 4 bills to tune the areas they could never reach with the PV? I' mean lets be real, just for a moment. Read years of threads of folks saying they can't collect data in the far reaching areas. The response was...don't worry about it, you don't ride there anyway". Now all of a sudden they can reach these areas? Come on now. You been around around long enough right? If someone couldn't hit these areas with PV, be it 1 or 2, why do they need Target Tune? I await your response......
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Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: USA
Jack, my 07 EGC would show high numbers on the high end of the RPM range and WOT. The AT would work fine down lower, but always want to scale up, or cap when I got up high. I never got to the bottom of this until I took my bike out to FuelMoto for some engne upgrades.
When Jaime put my bike on the dyno he immediately identified this as being a failure of the fuel system to deliver enough gas at those high RPM/WOT conditions (and this was pre-engine work!).
We replaced the fuel pump and regulator and then he did the engine work.
The point being, if you are unable to get to a point where even after Scaling up a bit, the high RPM/WOTs keep calling for scale or cap.. then you most likely have a fuel pump or regulater that is failing at the high end.
In my case the bike ran fine down below 3500 but flat lined on the dyno as rpm increased after that. Don't ignore that condition and you may find you get a much more powerful bike once you resolve it.
When Jaime put my bike on the dyno he immediately identified this as being a failure of the fuel system to deliver enough gas at those high RPM/WOT conditions (and this was pre-engine work!).
We replaced the fuel pump and regulator and then he did the engine work.
The point being, if you are unable to get to a point where even after Scaling up a bit, the high RPM/WOTs keep calling for scale or cap.. then you most likely have a fuel pump or regulater that is failing at the high end.
In my case the bike ran fine down below 3500 but flat lined on the dyno as rpm increased after that. Don't ignore that condition and you may find you get a much more powerful bike once you resolve it.
Anyway, glad your bike runs good. Enjoy!
Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 507
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From: Perkasie Pa
I pulled the fuel pump, found a dirty strainer, and a fuel filter that was so clogged the O ring was blown out of it's groove in one place. After all the scaling my 1200 was showing 148 cubic inches in power vision. went back to a older tune and everything just fell into place in 2 auto tunes. Power Vision is good, but sure can't fix mechanical problems!!
Jack
Jack