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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 07:11 PM
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Sorry forgot to mention that I measured 6" total rise from tree to centerline of bar. Looks like stock riser has about 1.5" pullback from centerline of trees as well.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 07:32 PM
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MMNCS(SS)
After doing a mock up on my non-ABS bike I ordered 1.75" riser blocks from CJM. Bitchen Seat Store sells as well and says 2" blocks fit but it seemed stretched when I did a mockup. CJM says there only comfortable with 1.75" on ABS with no brake line change (they make no claim for non ABS). The non-ABS front brake line is an engineering fail for sure. I know you can clip it and tap it but it seems like it could have been designed better for customization in mind. I may order an ABS front setup and make a hard line jumper for the ABS ports in the future. For now I went with the 1.75 and a I am more than pleased with the bar position. I am 6 ft tall, and this has brought the bar up and back to where my back is not slumped at all and all the weight is off my hands/wrist. Test ride felt amazing and I felt like I had better control of the bar in cornering.
I think you could probably get 2" in there but that brake line will be tight on non-ABS models. It shouldn't see any stretch during operation, but it didnt seem sound to me. Clutch line and electrical were a non issue with plenty of slack.
Bottom line: Quality product, major improvement, worth every penny.


Super easy install. Stock bolts seemed like they were not torqued. Stud came out vice nut coming off the stud.

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I just installed the 3 in CJ Motorsport risers on my 2018 FXFBS with ABS. I was able to use all stock lines.

I see in your pictures there is a gap where the risers connect. There should be no gap. I purchased mine used from a forum member so I had no mounting instructions. When he sent them he mentioned it took him a few tries to get them mounted correctly. He also sent me a few pictures as well. When looking at his pictures he also had a gap. These are not installed correctly. In order to install correctly you need to take the rubber bumpers off the OEM risers and install them on the CJ risers. The hard metal round disk that create the gap should fit snugly into the space you removed the rubber bumpers from. This will create flush connection. Your risers are upside down.



First picture is from the guy I purchased from. You can clearly see the gap. Second picture is how I installed them.

I could be wrong but it looks like you have a similar gap as the first picture.
 

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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MMNCS(SS)
After doing a mock up on my non-ABS bike I ordered 1.75" riser blocks from CJM. Bitchen Seat Store sells as well and says 2" blocks fit but it seemed stretched when I did a mockup. CJM says there only comfortable with 1.75" on ABS with no brake line change (they make no claim for non ABS). The non-ABS front brake line is an engineering fail for sure. I know you can clip it and tap it but it seems like it could have been designed better for customization in mind. I may order an ABS front setup and make a hard line jumper for the ABS ports in the future. For now I went with the 1.75 and a I am more than pleased with the bar position. I am 6 ft tall, and this has brought the bar up and back to where my back is not slumped at all and all the weight is off my hands/wrist. Test ride felt amazing and I felt like I had better control of the bar in cornering.
I think you could probably get 2" in there but that brake line will be tight on non-ABS models. It shouldn't see any stretch during operation, but it didnt seem sound to me. Clutch line and electrical were a non issue with plenty of slack.
Bottom line: Quality product, major improvement, worth every penny.


Super easy install. Stock bolts seemed like they were not torqued. Stud came out vice nut coming off the stud.

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3 inch blocks work fine also...


 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Norcalslinger
I just installed the 3 in CJ Motorsport risers on my 2018 FXFBS with ABS. I was able to use all stock lines.

I see in your pictures there is a gap where the risers connect. There should be no gap. I purchased mine used from a forum member so I had no mounting instructions. When he sent them he mentioned it took him a few tries to get the mounted correctly. He also sent me a few pictures as well. When looking at his pictures he also had a gap. These are not installed correctly. In order it install correctly you need to take the rubber bumpers off the OEM risers and install them on the CJ risers. The hard metal round disk the create the gap should fit snugly into the space you remove the rubber bumpers from. This will create flush connection. Your risers are upside down.



First picture is from the guy I purchased from. You can clearly see the gap. Second picture is how I installed them.

I could be wrong but it looks like you have a similar gap as the first picture.
Well I'll be damned! Good catch sir.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan D.
Well I'll be damned! Good catch sir.
My pleasure Dan. I did not realize I bought the 3 in risers from you initially. I was scratching my head for a bit when trying to install them, hence the DM yesterday, but I figured it out. Thanks again for the risers. Really like them.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Norcalslinger
I just installed the 3 in CJ Motorsport risers on my 2018 FXFBS with ABS. I was able to use all stock lines.

I see in your pictures there is a gap where the risers connect. There should be no gap. I purchased mine used from a forum member so I had no mounting instructions. When he sent them he mentioned it took him a few tries to get them mounted correctly. He also sent me a few pictures as well. When looking at his pictures he also had a gap. These are not installed correctly. In order to install correctly you need to take the rubber bumpers off the OEM risers and install them on the CJ risers. The hard metal round disk that create the gap should fit snugly into the space you removed the rubber bumpers from. This will create flush connection. Your risers are upside down.



First picture is from the guy I purchased from. You can clearly see the gap. Second picture is how I installed them.

I could be wrong but it looks like you have a similar gap as the first picture.
I tried both ways when installing and currently have them installed as you describe and gap is present. The only way I could achieve no gap was to remove the metal washer from rubber isolator on top of triple tree.

Did you install with original metal washer on top?

CJM website shows all original washers and rubber installed with there bolt and an additional washer on bottom.

I think there is supposed to be a small gap so that the rubber can insulate the riser and handlebar from vibration through the triple tree. If riser is hard mounted to triple tree it effectively eliminates any dampening from the rubber isolaters.

I have a pic of my riser from before with a small gap. Also including pic from CJM website.

I dont mean any disrespect to you by responding, and I appreciate you backing me up on the install. I am always willing to consider all options.

Zoom in and you can see a little gap


Tried to get a pic here, you can see the original metal washer. I transplanted the rubber stoppers to the bottom of the CJM piece as well (no effect on gap).

 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 10:29 PM
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Found a better pic of OEM setup with gap
 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MMNCS(SS)
I tried both ways when installing and currently have them installed as you describe and gap is present. The only way I could achieve no gap was to remove the metal washer from rubber isolator on top of triple tree.

Did you install with original metal washer on top?

CJM website shows all original washers and rubber installed with there bolt and an additional washer on bottom.

I think there is supposed to be a small gap so that the rubber can insulate the riser and handlebar from vibration through the triple tree. If riser is hard mounted to triple tree it effectively eliminates any dampening from the rubber isolaters.

I have a pic of my riser from before with a small gap. Also including pic from CJM website.

I dont mean any disrespect to you by responding, and I appreciate you backing me up on the install. I am always willing to consider all options.

Zoom in and you can see a little gap


Tried to get a pic here, you can see the original metal washer. I transplanted the rubber stoppers to the bottom of the CJM piece as well (no effect on gap).
I used all of the OEM parts metal washers on top and bottom. I don’t know what CJM instructions are for mounting as I did not buy them new. I tried to mock them up with the round metal disk sitting on the triple tree but did not believe they are designed to rest on two small points like that. I did pull the 4 rubber pieces from the OEM risers and installed them into the CJM risers. This all provided a snug fit with no gap. I’m no engineer but this seemed to be the most logical way to install. I did not have any gap on the stock set up as you do. Maybe some else can chime in about that. I guess someone could call CJM to get a clear answer. Seems the mounting instructions would be a bit more specific. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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Old Mar 1, 2020 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan D.
3 inch blocks work fine also...

Dan you are correct for ABS bikes. ABS bikes have a longer upper stock brake cable than Non ABS bikes. Who knows why this was decided by MoCo engineers but the Non ABS bikes are more limited than ABS bikes for this modification.
 
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